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BHUJ MUSEUM PHOTO ( GUJARAT)

Post by jignesh712712 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:57 pm

Bhuj Museum Weapons Photo. actually photography strictly prohibited there but my little son's capture 02 photo. after may i guide my son don't capture any photo here.
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Post by jashwantsinh » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:11 pm

Jignesh,

really good to see such an old fashioned/antique weapons, specially those Revolvers..Thanks for sharing.

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Post by Hammerhead » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:36 pm

What year you think the revolvers might have been built ?

And they all belong to "who" , rajput kings ?

Or Shivaji , Seems like some time around 1857. The American civil war was around that time too and all these may be shipped to British Empire and then snatched by rajput fighters - Haji
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Post by kalashnikovcult » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:40 pm

yea haji they belong to rajput families who ruled the kutch state, Shivaji Maharaj wasnt there so they arent His. The ruler was Rai Khengar, of what i know Khengar baba as he is fondly known was of Jadeja dynasty. They are rajputs of blue blood and said to be originally from Haryana.
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Post by jonahpach » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:13 pm

Those bowie knives are really interesting.. wish I could read the captions!
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Post by Katana » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:47 pm

kalashnikovcult wrote:yea haji they belong to rajput families who ruled the kutch state, Shivaji Maharaj wasnt there so they arent His. The ruler was Rai Khengar, of what i know Khengar baba as he is fondly known was of Jadeja dynasty. They are rajputs of blue blood and said to be originally from Haryana.
The Jadejas(Jaadon) came in from from what is now Iran and Sindh, so did the Jhalas(Makwana); no where near Haryana. Two Rajput clans that held sway over Haryana and are still numerous in that region are the Chauhans (Chahuman)and the Tomars(Tuar as they were originally called and the original inhabitants of Dillika-Delhi).

On a lighter side, there are a lot of Haryanvi Black Partridges (kaalaa teetar) in Kutch. Probably more so here than in their native environment. Apparently, Ra Khengar had some released to build a sizable number for sport and they have thrived since.

In the first photograph, is a pair of 'Jamaiyo', a weapon popular in Kutch and Kathiwar. Note the similarity with an Omani Jambaiya. That is influence from across the Gulf with whom the Kutchis maintain seafaring relations till date.

In the bottom photograph, top left, is a wonderful example of a 'bhuj' or raven's beak as it is known in the western world. This is probably the only edged weapon that is endemic to Kutch/ Kathiawar/ Gujarat and the best examples came from Bhuj, therefore the name. It was for some reason not adopted by the rest of the four main players (Rajput, Mughal, Maratha and Sikh) of the power struggle for control of India in the pre British era.

Such examples are to be seen far and few.
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Post by vivekpeter » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:46 pm

I can see a cannon with a flat mouth in the end of the second picture. Never heard or seen one before.. :o
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Post by Katana » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:40 pm

I too noticed it but have never seen anything like it. Maybe it spreads the shot. Also notice the walking stick in the centre? It's a 'gupti' or it could be a shotgun. :roll:
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Post by Georgian21 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:44 pm

it could be for sure is... on zoom you can see the grove for the cartridge :) the trigger piece in the handle seems to be missing or hidden.

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Post by ramtiger » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:13 pm

nice photos
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Post by Bhargav » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:32 am

Katana wrote:I too noticed it but have never seen anything like it. Maybe it spreads the shot. Also notice the walking stick in the centre? It's a 'gupti' or it could be a shotgun. :roll:
I don't think "gupti" is a shotgun, isn't "gupti" a sword hidden inside a walking stick ? :)

shotgun? but then I don't see a trigger :)

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Post by xl_target » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:23 am

Good photos, Jignesh.Thank you for sharing.
I really don't know why photography would be prohibited in a museum. I always thought that a museum would be about sharing information.
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Post by winnie_the_pooh » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:59 am

Hammerhead wrote:What year you think the revolvers might have been built ?And they all belong to "who" , rajput kings ?Or Shivaji , Seems like some time around 1857. The American civil war was around that time too and all these may be shipped to British Empire and then snatched by rajput fighters - Haji
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All 'blue bloods' started pretty ordinary .When you wield the stick you can claim any fanciful origin. :wink:

Jignesh,thanks for posting the photographs.

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Post by jignesh712712 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:23 am

this photo capturing time may i angree to my son....but today i fill that time i am wrong....thanks to my son Mayank....... :D

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Post by Sakobav » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:51 am

All 'blue bloods' started pretty ordinary .When you wield the stick you can claim any fanciful origin. :wink:

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