Indians For Guns

More on the Allahbad High Court order here - http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1454

While there is the Allahabad High Court ruling,the local authorities dont seem to be too concerned,people in UP still have to deposit their arms including licensees in Allahabad.

Penpusher,
Thanks for posting the article....

here something i came across of interest:
http://www.sikkimipr.org/images/herald/Aug%2025.pdf page 5

Order
For ensuring free and fair elections to the State legislative
Assembly scheduled on 10th September, 2009, in exercise of powers
conferred under Sec. 17 (3) (b) of the Arms Act, 1959, I hereby suspend
all the Arms Licences (Civil) issued in South District of Sikkim.
2. All the licencees are hereby directed to deposit their arms and
ammunition, along with licences, at the nearest Police Station by August
27, 2009 and obtain receipt in proof thereof.
3. This order shall remain in force till the election process
concludes.
4. In line with the exemptions made in the past, Arms licences
issued to the banks in South district of Sikkim are kept out of purview
of this order.
Director General of Police
Arms Licensing Authority
Gangtok, Sikkim

Nagarifle,

That is interesting.The invoked section allows the licensing authority to suspend "a license".IMO for en-mass suspension section 17 sub section 9 would apply.This can be done only on the basis of an order issued by the Central Govt. published in the Official Gazette.

nagarifle wrote: 2. All the licencees are hereby directed to deposit their arms and
ammunition, along with licences, at the nearest Police Station by August
27, 2009 and obtain receipt in proof thereof.

Ammunition too!!! i thought it was only the weapons that needed depositing.
/s/

Sounds like another of those distilled dickheads.

Guys,

Writing here after a long time .. my Dad says the arms taken by govt./cops citing election reasons are at times returned in damaged condition due to malhandling.
Watch it if you can, Goodluck for any future elections.
By the way, no wonders 26/11 happened in our country.
What else to expect in a place where a cop can't identify between an actual fire-arm and an air-gun.

Hope to keep in constant touch from now on.

may be best to take your arms in a steel locked cabnits, after checking lock it up so they have hard time to open it up. why make it easy for them

dear seniors
and is this valid during vips visit also?
regards
babu

Hi,
The Arms Law does not mention either elections or for that matter VIP visits. However, the licensing authorities or their superiors have the power to make you deposit arms for any "valid" reason such as public safety,VIP safety, elections etc.
regards,
Anand

what one should do is ask under which section of the arms act, is the order issued? and ask them to prove anything they say. remember that in this life if you want your rights you have to fight for it. or go elsewhere where there is no such crap flying around.


-- Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:24 --

oh ya i forget, we are just sheep who are willing to go to the slughter house. and not the courts

Hey guys,

Engine to this sucking situation are the British Raj rules of Arms control prevailing still when we're a 60 yrs old democracy (supposedly).
Guys, we need to fight a big legal battle to bring a change here.
Why not organize a meet so something concrete could come up .. we're well past the time of talking .. its about doing now.
If we make ourselves heard, there would be people standing against us and there would be people standing with us as well. That is the way to start ..wat say buddies?

see it is like this, (as we say in thees parts) if you want to win a big victory then you have to start with small victories. everyone is talking carp most of the time. PIL etc

question is has anyone done there homework? perhaps no.

most cases should be taken up locally(small victory) and should be settled locally. no reason why a local group can not get together and fight a local winnable issue?

PIL, if it is not winnable is not worth money. saying that, only PIL i would support is that ones that are likely to be won. And not some far f ached one which would be thrown out of the court. there are many talkers but not produced any convincing arguments. for example import of arms. is banned by the Finance Ministry. And not under the arms act. so taking out PIL against the Arms Act would be pointless in this case.

i believe that the Arms Act is reasonable one but the way it is implemented is wrong and does need changes and corrections with clarification. i say this in regards to the fact i have studied some of the notification given by MHA.

the problem lies with the state government as they do not train the staff in the issuing branch regarding the law etc.

i let me state that i for one would support a PIL if its for clarification regarding Arms Act etc.
i would support a PIL if its to make arms law easy to understand and implement.

hope i have thrown some light why i do not think that PIL is worth chasing at this stage.