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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby tirpassion » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:35 pm

Thanks a million friends for having shared your views also.

Having talked about the kids, I forgot the one who showed them the light of this beautiful Earth, my better half. Shame on me! I imagine her reaction when she will see me with a couple of kilos of extra love around the stomach brimming over the belt :D

I will take the extra care of my knee. I am wearing a pair of orthopaedic shoe soles made to my feet since 2 months now. They have reduced the pain a lot. I will see a specialist as fast as I can. Thanks for the remark Sir.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby jitu sati » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:28 am

hey tirpassion
you seem to be a fantastic family man in addition to being a intense shooter. good idol to emulate
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby airgun_novice » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:59 am

jitu sati wrote:hey tirpassion
you seem to be a fantastic family man in addition to being a intense shooter. good idol to emulate
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby jitu sati » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:29 am

hey guys i have hit a new snag. my SA % has suddenly dwindled after my little outing. what do you think i may be doing wrong
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby hvj1 » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:30 pm

By how much?
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby tirpassion » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:09 pm

Hello friends,

I am back in Paris in -5°C and snow in the morning today. Luckily there was that warm welcome at the airport to make me forget everything!

I will go for the SA drill today itself in the afternoon. Let the acid test begin and let me see what toll the 24 days of absence has taken on me.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby tirpassion » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:30 pm

Friends,
the debut was very painful. The gun seemed to be so heavy..., the temperature inside the stand was about 14°C (the heating system is not very efficient) which resulted in very cold hands. But I am very happy with my training session after 25 days. 95%in SA drill (40 holds) and 96% in SOA drill (50 shots). I do not know what I scored because I did not count as usual.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby jitu sati » Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:28 pm

hey hvj
as mentioned earlier my SA % has suddenly dropped down from 85 to 70%. the absence from practice was just 7 days. i felt drained after the travel. i took the sat and sunday off. feeling much better today. will prac in the evening and hope i do better
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby tirpassion » Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:29 am

Dear friends,

An interesting thing happened today during my training session and I am a bit puzzled/perplexed. hvj Sir, I would request you to kindly throw some light on the following.

Having realized since some time now and particularly yesterday, I decided to work on my calls. Although I was doing well in SOA drills and shooting well, I found that my calls were not precise. So I did a box drill on call today. A real catastrophe; 32.5% in 40 shots. I started by placing a pellet on a target to materialize the call (as suggested by Guruji). it was miserable so I went for a 9 ring cutout of an AR target. The mistakes were not huge (by 5 to 8 mm I guess). But they were not exact even with the cutout.

On the contrary, I shot well, resultwise. To get over my disappointment of percentage, I was tempted to count the points and finally I did so. Once, then twice and then I recounted to be sure. 380/400 (23 tens, 17 nines and 3 eights). Amazing for me! I never achieved that to my knowledge, not even in a practice session. There were 5 bad shots, 3 eights and 2 very bad nines.

I am a bit perplexed because I do not know what to think. Is it very bad not to be able to make perfect calls? Was it just one lucky stint? Will this imperfection reflect on the result etc.?

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby dev » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:39 am

You are counting the sighters I take it since even with my bad math 23+17=40 shots.
Dunno how but it is a great score. I suspect that the low calling is normal or within the parameters of such a score.
Cause I remember when I tried to fib my way through such an exercise, Guruji immediately caught my extrapolation and made sure that he boxed my ears in for good measure (albeit verbally).

Hope he doesn't make me sit in the horse stance for trying to answer this :-).
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby tirpassion » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:06 pm

You are right Dev. It should have been 14 nines and 3 eights. I only counted the tens and eights and my amazing mathematical skills just dropped the nines. I did not shoot any sighter. Thanks for the correction.
I am thinking on our comments. Was I calling low? I will go down the memory lane to find out. Thanks again!

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby jitu sati » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:01 am

hey tirpassion
can u please explain how does one exactly call
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby dev » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:11 am

dial the number and say hello :lol:

thousand apologies jitu, couldn't resist.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby tirpassion » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:06 pm

Nice joke dev!!! :D

I am sure Jitu did not mind at all.

Regarding the 'Call', I had given my viewpoints on page 44 which is as follows.

The perfection of the SA box drill exercise will help your follow through and hence to make your calls.
I prefer to think like a camera. The shot breaking being the shutter release and the perfect SA image the point of focus. The photograph taken is that of the unseen shot impact reflected by the 'call'.

The image of your SA at the moment of the shot breaking in is what is most important in 'call'. This needs a perfect follow through. From the image of your SA (at the time of shot breaking) and it's position on the target in the backdrop (provided you have not had a trigger jerk) you should be able to tell precisely where your pellet has landed. This is the 'Call'.
You should then physically verify the impact and analyse. Even if your call is right or wrong, you should know why it is right or why it is wrong. This will help you to rectify an error (in case) or continue to do the same work if it was perfect for the next shot. In short, the call is a mental analysis of your shot execution (it is what you think you have done before looking at the target) to prepare the next shot after physical analysis (the reality of what you have done on the target). The mental and physical analysis should match. So it is not a GUESS.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Postby hvj1 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:28 am

tirpassion wrote:Dear friends,

An interesting thing happened today during my training session and I am a bit puzzled/perplexed. hvj Sir, I would request you to kindly throw some light on the following.

Having realized since some time now and particularly yesterday, I decided to work on my calls. Although I was doing well in SOA drills and shooting well, I found that my calls were not precise. So I did a box drill on call today. A real catastrophe; 32.5% in 40 shots. I started by placing a pellet on a target to materialize the call (as suggested by Guruji). it was miserable so I went for a 9 ring cutout of an AR target. The mistakes were not huge (by 5 to 8 mm I guess). But they were not exact even with the cutout.

On the contrary, I shot well, resultwise. To get over my disappointment of percentage, I was tempted to count the points and finally I did so. Once, then twice and then I recounted to be sure. 380/400 (23 tens, 17 nines and 3 eights). Amazing for me! I never achieved that to my knowledge, not even in a practice session. There were 5 bad shots, 3 eights and 2 very bad nines.

I am a bit perplexed because I do not know what to think. Is it very bad not to be able to make perfect calls? Was it just one lucky stint? Will this imperfection reflect on the result etc.?

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A monk, when going to the market at the foothills of a mountain on which his monastry lay, trusted his own better judgement, over that of the mule he rode, to find the BEST path down, as well as up the mountain. One day, the monk was delayed in the market, well beyond daylight hours. As a result, he was forced to rely on the mules's memory, to trace the ususal path, up the steep mountain trail in the dark.

The Monk concentrated on keeping his BALANCE correctly on the mules back, so that the Mule could find it easier to climb the trail, which only he could trace, with his nose, ears, eyes and feet in total darkeness.
To the monk's surprise, they reached the Monastry in a shorter time in the darkness than what it would have taken during daylight.

Perplexed, the next day, the Monk went down the mountain and retraced the route taken by the Mule up the mountain trail in daylight. The Monk was surprised to see that the Mule had left the trail at the foot of the mountain itself and had quite easily managed up the mountain on a new trail! This trail though dangerous at times managed to reduce the travel time by a good hour! Since the Monk had no idea on how dangerous the new trail was in the darkness, he trusted the instincts of the mule, who in turn, given a free rein for the first time, disregarded the Monk's trail and forked his own to reach the Monastry well in advance.

Our subsconscious is like the Mule, our brain the conscious mind, is the monk. Like the Monk, who only concentrated on keeping his balance, your brain too concentrated only on the box drills. Leaving the mule to find a better path, your subconscious too unfettered by the conscious mind, was free to give you a far better performance.

I hope i have been amply clear in this little story of mine as to why you performed better AND WHY I ask people to concentrate fully on box drills. Like the Mule, your subconscious too will perform better. :D
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