difference between licences based on the need of gun.

[prashant1987]

hello guys, i am looking forward to apply for a licence for target shooting practice. i have enrolled my self in a shooting club. I have searched a lot of places but was not able to understand a clear differnce between a licence issued for target shooting and a licence issued for self defence. In other words, i want to know whether there is a rule that might prevent a handgun of a bore other than .22 to be registered with a licence obtained for target shooting.

[nagarifle]

none, just the purpose in issue or the reason for issue. like you can a driving licence to drive pvt car or a different looking one to drive taxi. end of the day it allows you to drive.

if you do target shooting then check to see what kind of bore they allow for handguns,

[goodboy_mentor]

While applying to not write a particular bore like .22 etc. Just write NPB pistol/revolver or NPB shotgun/rifle. When this is written on license you can buy any NPB pistol/revolver or NPB shotgun/rifle. This will keep your options wide open and not restricted to particular bore only. It does not mater if license is for sport or self defense.

[veeveeaar]

Bros ,for shotgun please be it known that it is only B. L. gunand not NPB shotgun in the Arms act and Rules . Again and again i request our bros in Arms ,pleeeeeeeeeease do not mis quote or misinterpret the act and rules and make matters worse for new license applicants. There is no prohibited bore in shot guns. .410 musket is not a shot gun . it is adaptation of SMLE .303 . There is no mention of shot gun in the Arms act and Rules . It is only BL gun and smooth bore gun. The learned and wicked LA and his subordinates invent all sorts of queries and your misquotes and mis interpretations will add fuel to the fire and misery of new license applicants

[ankur1011111]

You need not have reason to posses gun.
It is your right to own a gun.
You can own any NPB (non prohibited) weapon.
Your police record matters only.

[rajveer]

Thanks veeveeaar for nothing,
Can you please explain what isB.L.gunand where can it be seen apart from the Arms Act.
How many people are suffering if they have applied for NPB Gun / Rifle licencese and and after grant of license they are unable to buy your so called , PROBITED OR NON PROHIBITED shot gun.

Regards.

Ps. pleeeeeeeeeeeeee...se , don't bother yoooooooouuuuuuuuuuuurself to say .410 masket is not a shotgun . I think we all knoooooooooooooow that.

[goodboy_mentor]

I agree that the word "shot gun" is not mentioned in the Arms Act 1959 and Arms Rules 1962 but this is common knowledge that shot guns are smooth bore guns.

As far as refering to shot guns as B. L. guns, if you could please list those sections for clarity. Guns are of smooth bore(shot guns) and rifled bores(rifles and pistols/ revolvers). Thus any gun(including shot gun or rifle) that is loaded from the breach is breach loading gun. Category III b under Schedule I of Arms Rules 1962 is talking about breach loading rifles. Category III c under Schedule I of Arms Rules 1962 is talking about breach loading smooth bore guns.

Arms Act 1959 makes a distinction of shotguns(smooth bore guns) by the length of barrel. If we refer Section 13(3)(i) Arms Act 1959, it is talking about "smooth bore gun having a barrel of not less than twenty inches in length".

Firearms listed in Arms Rules, 1962 - Schedule I - category III have been classified as Non Prohibited Bores. Firearms listed in Arms Rules, 1962 - Schedule I - categories I(b) and I(c) have been classified as Prohibited Bores. Category I(b) does list smooth bore guns having barrel of less than 20" in length. Therefore it means smooth bore guns(shot guns) of barrel less than twenty inches in length are Prohibited Bores.

[rajveer]

Only a fool will apply with specific caliber and type of weapon,
Common application will be NPB Revolver/ Pistol for short gun or for long gun NPB gun / Rifle.
So that one has the option to buy his choice and change if needed in future.

Regards.

[nagarifle]

Only a fool will apply with specific caliber and type of weapon,
Common application will be NPB Revolver/ Pistol for short gun or for long gun NPB gun / Rifle.
So that one has the option to buy his choice and change if needed in future.

Regards.

i would like to point out that the arms licence application mentions cal. which means what caliber. if you try to NPB RIFLE/Pistol etc in Nagaland your application will be rejected.

so its regional thing and not national, one should beware of what is overlooked/allowed in ones area.

[goodboy_mentor]

Yes it might be a regional thing that has been forced upon arms license applicants by the babus. But for the purpose of Arms Act 1959 and Arms Rules 1962 there seem to be basically three categories of firearms: prohibited arms, prohibited bore arms, non prohibited bore arms.

[renjith747]

Hi while applying for arms license, filling up what is the purpose of the weapon in the application form there are variety of options like self defense, crop protection, sports and target practice.Actually what is the main difference between license for sports and license for target practice ????.Am confused by this..... anybody please comment on this.....

[goodboy_mentor]

I don't think there is any practical difference today. During the days when hunting was allowed sports could mean both target practice and hunting.

[dr.jayakumar]

friends,
the whole constitution is confusing(meant to confuse).
don't you all see how confused we are...this is british raj.they have succeeded in giving us the freedom(to be corrupt and ignorant)
regards

[nagarifle]

friends,
the whole constitution is confusing(meant to confuse).
don't you all see how confused we are...this is british raj.they have succeeded in giving us the freedom.
regards

only freedom that is given is to be slaves to the babous.

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[goodboy_mentor]

the whole constitution is confusing(meant to confuse).

Yes creating confusion is the trade secret of the corrupt to flourish. To add insult to the injury is when the judiciary starts acting like rubber stamp or yes man of the ruling dispensation. Recently Delhi High Court judge Suresh Kait is reported to have said that like China the facebook and google may be blocked. One wonders are we a free democracy or some kind of communist dictatorship?

only freedom that is given is to be slaves to the babous.

Please forget about freedom or anything reasonable so long the babus have the constitutional protection to be practically above the law under Article 311 of the Constitution. For example in line with Article 311 we have Section 6A of the Delhi Special Police Establishment (DSPE) Act, which says that even for initiating an inquiry against officers of the level of Joint Secretary and above prior permission has to be taken from the minister concerned. The request for permission has to go to the minister concerned under whom the officer works. It is held up for months or maybe for ever. Then have Section 19 of DSPE Act under which government sanction is mandatory for prosecution. Also there are Sections 24, 197, 370, 377 of CrPC for the government to play games with. Basically the entire theme of the British colonial mindset and rule is reflected in the laws i.e. most of the time the laws default in the favour of the babus. In effect the upper level of government where the big ticket corruption occurs is practically above the law of the land.