Shotgun Cartridges Comparison Photo

[Mark]

The larger punt guns fired shot loads of up to 1 1/2 lbs ( c. 680 gms )

And that is no exaggeration!

[Skyman]

Were they fired at flocks of birds flying by?

[Vikram]

Were they fired at flocks of birds flying by?

A punt is a boat. The gun is mounted on the boat and one actually aims with the boat at birds sitting either on the waters or the banks. Unlike shoulder guns, there are not used against flying birds. They were primarily market oriented so the sporting element is secondary. Now, it is banned in US, but alive in UK.



http://puntgunner.co.uk/

In fact, a member of IFG builds punt guns and punt gun makers can be counted on one hand.


Best-
Vikram

[Skyman]

Err...would not the dead birds sink or something?

[TwoRivers]

Err...would not the dead birds sink or something?

No, dead waterfowl float.

[Grumpy]

Vikram, had you noticed that isn`t a punt ? It`s a punt gun but mounted on a sled on iced-over water.
I wish you hadn`t replied to Skyman, Two Rivers because then I could have told him about the diving spaniels specially bred to retrieve sunken birds.......
Skyman, the punt would be manoeuvred into range of a flock of birds and then the birds would be provoked into flight by the puntgunner slapping the punt or the water and the shot would be taken.
In Mark`s photograph the two large guns are both punt guns and would NOT be shot from the shoulder. They probably weigh somewhere in the region of 100 lbs each.

[Skyman]

Come now, i thought they were fired after being set up on land, a little like artillery.Them being set up on water i did not know.

And no, i would not have believed your spaniel story.

The oily coating on their feathers makes ducks float on water.I take it this extends to all water birds....

[TwoRivers]

because then I could have told him about the diving spaniels specially bred to retrieve sunken birds.......

I always thought those diving water spaniels had been bred to retrieve winged diving ducks...

[Grumpy]

Well, they are - that`s part of their role - but they also retrieve sunken birds - although birds that sink are invariably pretty badly shot up so that they get waterlogged.

[TwoRivers]

Well, they are - that`s part of their role - but they also retrieve sunken birds - although birds that sink are invariably pretty badly shot up so that they get waterlogged.

That's what happens when you use shot that's too large for the bird, say size 1 shot for ducks. It will go right through the bird, and the air will quickly leak out while water rushes in, making the bird become waterlogged and sink. Shooting ducks while you're loaded for geese is not a good idea. Unless you hunt with a DWS.

[Grumpy]

That`s the problem with steel shot having to be so much larger than lead shot. It also means that the use of tripehounds has increased greatly in order to clear up the viscera so that it doesn`t taint the water.

[manubrar67]

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Thanks vikram for sharing...
Which cartrige is most devastating 410 or 10 gauge....

[xl_target]

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Thanks vikram for sharing...
Which cartrige is most devastating 410 or 10 gauge....

hmmm, brar sahib, what do you think?

[Grumpy]

It`s difficult to imagine the little .410 being thought of as `devastating`.........
The list of shotgun cartridges - from smallest to largest - runs as follows :
.22
9mm
.410
28-Bore
20-Bore
16-Bore
14-Bore
12-Bore
10-Bore
8-Bore
4-Bore
Neither 8-Bore or 4-Bore are commercially loaded any more.
14-Bore guns used to be quite common but guns haven`t been built for many years. Fiocchi have started producing 14-Bore cartridges however to allow the old guns to be used.
It`s quite common to see old British shotguns proved as 13-Bores - they`re actually `tight` bored ( .710" ) 12-bore guns with 12-Bore chambers.
The list of shot cartridges - as opposed to shotgun cartridges - is somewhat larger as shot cartridges are available in certain handgun calibres.

[manubrar67]

Thanks grumpy for describing...
@xl_target i have no idea thats why i asked i m puzzled with the cartriges bores as increasing like 10 gauge 12 gauge 16 gauge i thought as increasing maybe more powerful.....