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Re: want to buy a 9mm in india

Post by eljefe » Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:53 pm

bhawani shukla wrote:lol.... truely said goodboy_mentor about the Maoists....i do daura of naxali prabhavit areas in chattissgarh...so will tell the MHA to give me ak47 and berreta 9mm(i like its looks)..for my protection and keep my grandads 12bore single barrel?really want to keep s&w magnum 500 also..
You would be better off with the 12 bore- not much value . :oops: Thats the reason you are probably alive-the phatichar bara bore
Owning a 9 mm and an AK will make you a definite target.And how many do you hope to hold off with 2 mags of 30 rounds in an AK and say, same 2 mags 0f 16 rounds from a betetta-provided you last that long?
Get real. having an AK and a Beretta does not make you invincible/ bullet proof.
Next you'll be asking for a Humvee with a 50 BMG for your 'daura'
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Re: want to buy a 9mm in india

Post by bhawani shukla » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:33 pm

thanks a lot guys for helping me out my queries..
*nagarrifle actually its just that 80% of India is villages and the people there are working hard to earn there food to eat for themselfs and there children,poverty is very much reality here because of population mainly.corruption affects the middle class people from my point of view,corruption and population are only the biggest challenges for india which i think she will surely overcome with time but that doesnt mean they have to ignore upper sections and minority(Gun enthusiasts)like us..
i will do one thing when i come to delhi this time is to talk to the people in home ministry for lifting the baan in import of guns....shivraj patelji has really close relation with my family but he is no more in home ministry...i know the person in charge next to chitambramji,will surely talk to him and hear what they have to say..will surely get back to you guys what they are saying...cheers

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*eljefe..first of all i want to tell you that i want to own nice and powerfull guns for pleasure not for my protection(12 bore is of my grandad so of centimental value if you may understand)...govt has given me and my family gunmens who carry 9mm and ak47..and for your information there is not such threat in chattisgardh that naxals are blowing up civilian people,they attact the govt officials only,that also rarely in interiors like dantewadha...i dont know if you have the knowledge that india doent have hummve and has gypsy in army with big machine guns mounted on top of it which i experianced in z security when i was in vacation in jammu with my family..and ya i dont pop pills but i think dont mind being scarface with m-16..think its bit cooler to sniff than pop..anyways i dont have any technical knowledge about firearms so would really appriciate if you would enlighten me with your knowledge...thanks eljefe

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Re: want to buy a 9mm in india

Post by vrohan59 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:19 pm

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Post by goodboy_mentor » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:29 am

i will do one thing when i come to delhi this time is to talk to the people in home ministry for lifting the baan in import of guns....shivraj patelji has really close relation with my family but he is no more in home ministry...i know the person in charge next to chitambramji,will surely talk to him and hear what they have to say..will surely get back to you guys what they are saying...cheers
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Throughout the freedom struggle our leaders protested against the Arms Act of 1878, demanding for every Indian citizen the right to keep and bear arms. For example in Nagpur around 1923 or 1924 there was a Satyagraha movement against the prevailing Arms Act. This movement attracted Satyagrahis from all over India, it went on for six months and the Indian National Congress put its seal of approval on this Satyagraha movement against the Arms Act. In fact even the Father of Nation, Mahatma Gandhi, protested for the right of every Indian citizen to keep and bear arms, going so far as to state that, “Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest”.

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Re: want to buy a 9mm in india

Post by bhawani shukla » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:08 am

thanks goodboy_mentor
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Re: want to buy a 9mm in india

Post by eljefe » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:22 am

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i will do one thing when i come to delhi this time is to talk to the people in home ministry for lifting the baan in import of guns....shivraj patelji has really close relation with my family but he is no more in home ministry...i know the person in charge next to chitambramji,will surely talk to him and hear what they have to say..will surely get back to you guys what they are saying...cheers


Yuss your wozzip,
we, the hoi polloi would be beholden for this act of kindness from you.
Pity you handnt come out from under the rocks earlier.We would be grateul if you can lift this import ban and cancel the new amendments?
While you're at it, there'a piffling' matter of poverty and the non functional Commonwealth Games which could surely be handled on your next Dilli trip, by your honour?
Shivraj Patelji, Chitambramji,(you better not tell him you can spell his name, for starters ;) ) Torquemada-ji, Rasputin-ji, whatever it takes to float your boat.
Just remember to change your sheets when you wake up?
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Re: want to buy a 9mm in india

Post by sa_ali » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:25 am

bhawani shukla wrote:i will do one thing when i come to delhi this time is to talk to the people in home ministry for lifting the baan in import of guns.
Hi Bhawani,

I am not sure if you understand what you mean here, its not some bodies whim or fancy that we are talking about here, we are talking about legislation's and law, they dont change on 1 person request no matter how close you are to the PM or the ministers. :D
But we will appreciate if you can put it to their ears and bring to their notice the fight of normal citizens to bear arms, which is already in constitution.
please understand that most of the member are pretty experienced in both fire arms and life :), most of us are from india and not 100% urban, we all have our own fare share of rural roots and exposure, so we might not be moving with Z category security, but we all know what is happening on ground.
We will really appreciate if you are able to help the fraternity by talking to ppl you have mentioned, have you become member of NAGRIhttp://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... 23&start=0, that will be first step to help us and then may be you can help us more by getting those ministers join our movement :)
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Post by hamiclar01 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:03 pm

asif, me smelling strong shahidification here. is anyone else?
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Post by eljefe » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:18 pm

Hamiclar-methinks a ' wee' test is in order-and see what all 'lights' up?
as long as there are no command hallucinations... :zzz: :zzz:
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Re: want to buy a 9mm in india

Post by grewal » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:08 pm

bhawani shukla wrote:i will do one thing when i come to delhi this time is to talk to the people in home ministry for lifting the baan in import of guns....shivraj patelji has really close relation with my family but he is no more in home ministry...i know the person in charge next to chitambramji,will surely talk to him and hear what they have to say..will surely get back to you guys what they are saying...cheers
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Post by OverUnderPump » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:32 pm

Do grace us lesser mortals with your benign presence whenever you care to pay a visit to Delhi. We'd be honored.

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Post by dev » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:45 pm

hamiclar01 wrote:asif, me smelling strong shahidification here. is anyone else?
hell yeah, but you beat me to the draw. but shahid won't call a shotgun a rifle to be fair to him. :twisted:
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Re: want to buy a 9mm in india

Post by hamiclar01 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:21 am

dev wrote:
hell yeah, but you beat me to the draw. but shahid won't call a shotgun a rifle to be fair to him. :twisted:
Maybe not, but he'd never resist a chance to throw in names of his "friends" his royal highness the maharaja of churanpaani and rai bahadur dabar amla who went shooting with him on hajmola estate, where they were joined by sheikh harun rashid the ace olympian and maharani peeplibai, (whose bag of shaturmurg is unrivalled) :mrgreen:

heck, is this vjha again, are we drawn to a troll? mr mccarthy was right
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Re: want to buy a 9mm in india

Post by bhawani shukla » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:39 pm

lol....eljefe why you so pissed and cribbing all the time....chill...you have so much time in life like a baby that you can go change your dipper.. :)

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sa_ali i will surely join nagri and sure be in touch with people who are seeing that forum.....will make them talk to the right people...cheers

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Post by eljefe » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:10 pm

bhawani shukla wrote:lol....eljefe why you so pissed and cribbing all the time....chill...you have so much time in life like a baby that you can go change your dipper.. :)

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sa_ali i will surely join nagri and sure be in touch with people who are seeing that forum.....will make them talk to the right people...cheers
since you have an oblique reference to what i guess was DIAPER, I found another priceless gem for you Bhawani Shukla:
QUOTE I can tell the difference between clay and sh*t, its an important ability when posts such as yours appear UNQUOTE
I am 'pissed and cribbing" because hicks like you who are only fit to ji huzoor the abc-ji and xyz-ji, come on here and tell us tales from the Panchatantra . I have seen and lived in your side of the world -if you have so much influence with the Indian Polity, do get the roads and power problems fixed in your state.
NAGRI can wait.
READ the title of the site?
Its Indians for guns, not
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bhawani shukla wrote: dont mind being scarface with m-16..think its bit cooler to sniff than pop..
I told you earlier, This is Indiansforguns, not
"this-is-what-i-sniff.com"
and to think GBM wasted such valuable info on a retard ... :roll:
We know what you are sniffing , just be careful how far you have your head stuffed inside or it will burst if your abc-ji breaks wind
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