Broken Erma

[The Doc]

This enables them to use the serial number on the unlicensed/illegal fire arm in order to legitimize it which are eventually sold at a very high premium.. I hope that wouldn't happen in this case.

actually we sold it to one dealer but on one condition is that he will not going to weld it he can sale only the parts. as he is friend of dad so there is no problem at all for again will get accident...

What about the serial number ? It can be easily misused as marksman pointed out .

best,
Rp.

[sa_ali]

WOW, seeing this for first, cant imagine that happening. Its a nightmare.

Good that no one got injured.

[The Doc]

WOW, seeing this for first, cant imagine that happening. Its a nightmare.

Just wondering , has anyone ever seen or heard about a cracked IOF .32 revolver frame ? I once saw a cracked hammer (a faint crack line across the width of the base of the hammer) of an old resold IOF .32 revolver.

best,
Rp.

[indigo_indo]

God saved me ...

i was offered an erma revolver for 1.65 by my arms dealer previously when i had not booked the IOF .32 revolver . But some freind of mine advised me to not spend double the amount on the arm since i may not need to carry it always.

So i went for iof . 32 and i have received it in first of this month and i am happy to have a sturdy gun with possibility of availability of all the possible spares and repairable option .

Since imported guns i have seen with my maternal uncle , he has colt cobra and may be the current price would be more than 3 or 3.5 he never uses kf ammunition out of risk involved.

so i think i made a better choice going for iof gun as i have no worry of using local ammunition...

The demise of gun is a real shock for any of the person and when the gun is the passion it hurts more... i personally feel sorry for it.

rohit

[jonahpach]

broken revolver sold for 70k ...... What would the buyer do with the broken parts ? Do the transfer of arms in broken condition to another member allowed ? I thought broken arms have to be surrendered to poice armoury to get clearence to procure new one.

The buyer of the broken pistol is probably going to gas weld the broken alloy frame, powder coat it and sell it as "Brand New" to an unknowing buyer for a nice fat profit.

[The Doc]

Here is another one, this Erma also broke exactly at the same two spots . Very interesting indeed !! These two areas are probably the weakest areas of the frame exposed to the high pressures generated .

http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=8901

best,
Rp.

[cottage cheese]

With misgivings about the end result being peddled off by dealers as brand new phoren made revolver at predictably unsavory premiums, I'd say that the whole frame can be rebuilt with steel (even mild-ish steel) by an appropriately equipped and skilled gunsmith. he'll mostly need the services of a vertical mill and of course end-mills in several sizes and corner rounding profiles. Most of the reconstruction cost will go into the end-mill bits.

The critical parts - barrel, cylinder, yoke,crane, lock work are presumably all intact so legally, its a plain repair job. Granted the resulting frame will probably not bear a 100% resemblance to the original but you still have a pretty usable gun.

The not-so-nice part is when it passe on as a brand-new-mint to an unsuspecting customer...for you only 8.5L saar.

regards,
cc

[The Doc]

CC,

I am glad you brought that up . Just last week a guy offered me a NIB (yet another, LOL) Erma and while I went into my rant about the breakage of frames and so on , this fellow without blinking an eyelid said, "Daktar Sahab, shoot this one as much as you like, once it breaks we can get an all steel frame made for you !! " That left me speechless .

best,
Rp.

[cottage cheese]

CC,

I am glad you brought that up . Just last week a guy offered me a NIB (yet another, LOL) Erma and while I went into my rant about the breakage of frames and so on , this fellow without blinking an eyelid said, "Daktar Sahab, shoot this one as much as you like, once it breaks we can get an all steel frame made for you !! " That left me speechless .

best,
Rp.

O well... you could ask them to foot your medical fees when the time comes...

[The Doc]

I'd rather not, but see the cheek of the seller !!

best,
Rp.

[cottage cheese]

I'd rather not, but see the cheek of the seller !!

best,
Rp.

..most are that way...incorrigible to say the least.

[alfaromeo17]

I have my self seen a similar accident take place with a similar Erma guys it's nothing to do with ammo. The metal used is just not gud enough. Any of u guys have this make sell it off immediately.

[TwoRivers]

These guns have die-cast zinc alloy frames. Strong enough to pass proof with the low powered shells they are chambered for. However, with time this alloy ages and becomes (more) brittle. Definitely a "do not buy". Cheers.

[sudhaiob]

broken revolver sold for 70k ...... What would the buyer do with the broken parts ? Do the transfer of arms in broken condition to another member allowed ? I thought broken arms have to be surrendered to poice armoury to get clearence to procure new one.

It would be entered into the books as a revolver and then substituted for an contraband revolver and sold for a tidy sum. I have seen auctions of old obsolete weapons being bought by dealers only for sale by substitution with unlicenced arms.
sudhaiob

[swamy_mvm]

Erma is very good and smooth tiger compares to IOF and other, I have with metal fully, with me there is no issue till date it's in awesome condition.