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Charles Lancaster Double Rifle with Devnagari Inscription-Please Help

Post by dixon42 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:28 pm

Hi,
I have just bought a cased double percussion rifle by Charles Lancaster London made in 1854 for a Captain J.C. Brooke. All the accessories have an ownership mark engraved on them and the case has an inked name or word on the top of the lid and is carved all along the front edges with an inscription. All this is of course part of the history of the rifle and I am very keen to try to find out what it all says. I attach some photos of the inscriptions on an oil bottle, case lid and the edges of the case and would be very grateful if someone is able to translate any of it.
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Re: Charles Lancaster Double Rifle with Devnagari Inscription-Please Help

Post by Vikram » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:27 pm

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Could you please take a look and help our friend with what is written in Devnagari script? Thank you.
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Post by timmy » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:45 am

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Is there someone who can provide an English translation for these inscriptions and engravings? Thank you.
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Re: Charles Lancaster Double Rifle with Devnagari Inscription-Please Help

Post by UDAYANJADHAV » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:26 am

It seems like Modhi script and not Devnagari script.

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Post by dixon42 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:04 pm

If it helps, I believe that the original owner Captain J. C. Brooke was in charge of the Meywar Bheel Corps in the 1850's at Kherwarah Rajpootana.
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Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:59 pm

At one place it's written as in 1000 chittori currency it was purchased. But again the term chittori for currency was used in 16th/17th century and very uncommon in last half of 18th century. It was of course from chittor Rajasthan area. I am trying to translate other parts also.
It seems it is some local dialect written in devnagri script.
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Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:04 pm

At first line starting it looks like a sales receipt sort of description possible "do NAL samet " (with two barrels). May be I am wrong. If anything more I can find I will update.
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Post by dixon42 » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:26 pm

Thanks for your help so far Shivaji. I feel this rifle has some fascinating history which may be revealed if we can somehow decipher the script.
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Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:56 pm

Yes possible. I am giving these images to some language experts in Rajasthan specially in Jodhpur Udaipur area. Let's see what they can suggest
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Post by Vikram » Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:07 pm

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Yes possible. I am giving these images to some language experts in Rajasthan specially in Jodhpur Udaipur area. Let's see what they can suggest
Thank you. I have also asked people from that area. Let's see what turns out.
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Post by winnie_the_pooh » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:40 am

No idea of I am reading it right but the top line to me looks like it says ".... do(two) nali(barrel) rafal(rifle) jis(whose) naal(barrel) samat(year)...." the rest I can't make out what it says. It seems the writing is about the contents rather than about the owner.
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Re: Charles Lancaster Double Rifle with Devnagari Inscription-Please Help

Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:32 am

winnie_the_pooh wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:40 am
No idea of I am reading it right but the top line to me looks like it says ".... do(two) nali(barrel) rafal(rifle) jis(whose) naal(barrel) samat(year)...." the rest I can't make out what it says. It seems the writing is about the contents rather than about the owner.
True. It's the description of the contents inside the box and from whom it was purchased and at what value. It's not the details of the owner.
At second line one word is probably "Kaka se ( from uncle) then kimat ( price ) 1000 mentioned and after that chittori. " Then it's probably " peti samet ( including the box) "
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Re: Charles Lancaster Double Rifle with Devnagari Inscription-Please Help

Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:34 am

There were some more word in the start of first line which is covered with some resin or paint
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