Holland & Holland 465 sold to Army/Navy store India

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Holland & Holland 465 sold to Army/Navy store India

Post by bwana.be » Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:07 pm

Hi! This is a long shot but I have a double rifle 500/465 from according to H&H in London was made for the Army & Navy stores - Bombay branch.
Thats about it. The serial number on mine is 32081 and I have found several rifles in close number to mine like:

#32071 https://www.africahunting.com/threads/4 ... ifle.2799/
This was also sold by Army & Navy to a Maharaja.

Or this one

"32088
https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdju ... /2373-391/
Also sold by Army & Navy to a Maharaja

The Glasgow University hold the ledgers for Army & Navy London branch but they don't seem to find anything on my rifle because it was sold by the Bombay/Mumbai branch? Anyone know if someone hold the ledgers from A/N Bombay branch ? OR can help me with this serial number ?

I would love to find out the first owner

All the best from Sweden

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This is the ledgers from H&H on my rifle.

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Re: Holland & Holland 465 sold to Army/Navy store India

Post by bwana.be » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:02 am

Here maybe it will show better resolution

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Re: Holland & Holland 465 sold to Army/Navy store India

Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:44 am

Hi, Army and Navy stores were closed shortly after Independence. Probably in 1948/49. Almost all the brach were closed there operation simultaneously which includes Mumbai, kolkata, Ranchi, Shimla New Delhi.
Their property was sold to different parties at that time.
One best thing is, Bombay/ Mumbai store property was propably purchased by Tata's.
You can send mail to Tata archives. With luck you can get something from there.
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Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:52 am

Sorry to mention, try with Tata central Archives. They have their history section well maintained and have records from 1898 and old.
All the best for your search.
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Post by bwana.be » Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:47 pm

Many Thanks Shivaji! I have tried contacting them now. Hope they have some info!

best regards

Anton

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Post by bwana.be » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:41 pm

Shivaji.Dasgupta wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:52 am
Sorry to mention, try with Tata central Archives. They have their history section well maintained and have records from 1898 and old.
All the best for your search.
May I ask you another favour shivaji!

I have sent them 3 emails by no answer and called them twice but no one seems to speak English. Is it possible for you to ask them In your language. If they hold the ledger or not.

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Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:42 pm

Hi Anton. The archive is in pune. I will try over phone and ask some of my known as well in pune to contact them. May be we have luck.
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Re: Holland & Holland 465 sold to Army/Navy store India

Post by bwana.be » Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:55 am

Thank you Shivaji

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Re: Holland & Holland 465 sold to Army/Navy store India

Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:05 am

Hi Anton, to the best information I got from Tata Archives, they have some documents and probably some photographs on the Acquisition of Army navy store Mumbai but the details about the material is not sure. If you are not in hurry then next month my colleague is going to pune for some official purpose, I can request him for a check.
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Re: Holland & Holland 465 sold to Army/Navy store India

Post by Vikram » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:43 pm

Shivaji.Dasgupta wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:05 am
Hi Anton, to the best information I got from Tata Archives, they have some documents and probably some photographs on the Acquisition of Army navy store Mumbai but the details about the material is not sure. If you are not in hurry then next month my colleague is going to pune for some official purpose, I can request him for a check.

Shivaji,

That is very nice of you. :cheers:
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Re: Holland & Holland 465 sold to Army/Navy store India

Post by bwana.be » Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:32 am

Shivaji.Dasgupta wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:05 am
Hi Anton, to the best information I got from Tata Archives, they have some documents and probably some photographs on the Acquisition of Army navy store Mumbai but the details about the material is not sure. If you are not in hurry then next month my colleague is going to pune for some official purpose, I can request him for a check.
Many thanks again Shivaji.
Im in no hurry - if you could please do that it would be wonderful!

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Post by AlanD » Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:58 am

Any luck with the archive in Pune?

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Re: Holland & Holland 465 sold to Army/Navy store India

Post by bwana.be » Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:29 pm

I have not heard anything more

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Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:50 pm

Hi Allan. I am extremely sorry that I have missed your post. I have made several contact to tata archives pune and Tata office Mumbai but till date not able to get any proper details from them.
When one of my known reached to Pune archive then he get a reply that Tata purchased the above mentioned property in Mumbai but not run that business any more. Archive is not sure about the documents of previous business. Though they said that they will try to get any information if possible
It's again a fault on my part that due to my own schedule I have missed the follow up with them. Today it self I will try to reach them if there is any info.

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Re: Holland & Holland 465 sold to Army/Navy store India

Post by Shivaji.Dasgupta » Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:08 pm

Also if possible PM me your What's app no. If any information available then I will txt you
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