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Post by Grumpy » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:40 am

OK Mark ( and anyone else that`s interested ) what`s this ?

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Re: Yet another

Post by biking3819 » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:05 am

well this time its def a 1911 colt ...
exactly the one from which the hw45 borrowed its looks
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Re: Yet another

Post by cottage cheese » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:17 am

Imperial Russian Contract 1911?

If correct....

Biggest foreign Purchase order of 1911s till then- 51,100 pieces
Shipped Feb 1916 to Jan 1917(Serial Range: C23000-C89000)

These were purchased through an agency of the British Government...

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Re: Yet another

Post by Grumpy » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:42 am

Yes, defininitely a Colt 1911......but not a Russian contract pistol. It`s not just an ordinary 1911 though as that would hardly be very interesting.

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Re: Yet another

Post by cottage cheese » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:52 am

RAF issue 1911 in .455Eley?

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Re: Yet another

Post by Grumpy » Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:03 am

Damn - just too quick CC !
Yes, exactly that.
For those of you who hadn`t noticed, the `RAF` stamp can be seen quite clearly.
This particular pistol is in super condition and currently for sale at around £2,500 ( $5,000. ) ......... and that`s not an inflated Indian price !

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Re: Yet another

Post by cottage cheese » Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:08 am

Grumpy";p="27687 wrote:Damn - just too quick CC !
Yes, exactly that.
For those of you who hadn`t noticed, the `RAF` stamp can be seen quite clearly.
This particular pistol is in super condition and currently for sale at around £2,500 ( $5,000. ) ......... and that`s not an inflated Indian price !
O well if nobody's buying, send it along.... maybe I can get my daughter started off on history :mrgreen:

Assuming .455Eley is different from .455Webley this would be an NPB... :mrgreen:

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Post by eljefe » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:13 pm

Ha, CC must have had his dose of OMOROK today? chilly hot mate! here I am still trying to figure out which 455 that was...
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Post by cottage cheese » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:26 pm

eljefe";p="27707 wrote:Ha, CC must have had his dose of OMOROK today? chilly hot mate! here I am still trying to figure out which 455 that was...
Even worse... I had to gob off this pot load of bombay-duck my mom cooked...laced with Naga raja! Got those grey cells jump started :)

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Re: Yet another

Post by Grumpy » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:51 pm

You utter, utter rotter CC ( :roll: ) - I hadn`t noticed that you`d said that the pistol was chambered for the .455 Eley........it was actually chambered for the .455 Webley. What`s the difference ? Well if you can answer that in one short sentence you`re a better man then I Gunga Din ! :lol:
I doubt that the Indian authorities know which actual .455 round they`ve classified as PB.
Just as a `reward` for bringing up this horrible topic I`ll refer you to the following article which is one of the better on the subject......although you won`t be any wiser after reading it :
http://cartridgecollectors.org/455/introto455.htm

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Post by Mack The Knife » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:51 pm

Yum! Haven't had those in ages - both fish and chilli.

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Re: Yet another

Post by Grumpy » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:54 pm

By the way, what`s `OMOROK` ?
`Bombay Duck` ? That`s that `orrible dried fish thing right ? :wink:

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Re: Yet another

Post by penpusher » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:29 pm

So far I have seen exactly one .455 Enfield revolver (had me stumped,especially the loading and unloading.) ,one 1911 in .455 Webley, a couple of WG .476 revolvers and one Webley Fosbery(.455).Incidentally,.455 auto would be a NPB.Best of luck trying to prove this though.

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Re: Yet another

Post by Mack The Knife » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:31 pm

Grumpy";p="27764 wrote:`Bombay Duck` ? That`s that `orrible dried fish thing right ? :wink:
Yep but it can also be had fresh (batter fried) and that is delicious.

The dried one is probably India's answer to Beef Jerky / Biltong. Well...somewhat. :mrgreen:

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Re: Yet another

Post by cottage cheese » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:33 pm

Grumpy";p="27762 wrote:You utter, utter rotter CC ( :roll: ) - I hadn`t noticed that you`d said that the pistol was chambered for the .455 Eley........it was actually chambered for the .455 Webley. What`s the difference ? Well if you can answer that in one short sentence you`re a better man then I Gunga Din ! :lol:
I doubt that the Indian authorities know which actual .455 round they`ve classified as PB.
Just as a `reward` for bringing up this horrible topic I`ll refer you to the following article which is one of the better on the subject......although you won`t be any wiser after reading it :
http://cartridgecollectors.org/455/introto455.htm
eeesh! may have mis-worded it man!

Actually it is .455 Webley semi rimmed, if I remember, developed by George Kynoch (Eley)... I didn't want to get it mixed with those old ugly .455 rimmed Webley revolver ammo. Anyway most British .455 1911s had their magazined marked .455 Eley...so there's the culprit and that's about as far as I know...leave the rest to you. :mrgreen:

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