Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:26 pm

Since unregistered visitors are unable to download attachments, the draft objection has been uploaded to the following locations, accessible by all:

http://www.indiansforguns.com/draft_objections.pdf (Acrobat PDF document format)
http://www.indiansforguns.com/draft_objections.rtf (Rich Text Format, editable in most office programs)
http://www.indiansforguns.com/draft_objections.txt (plain text format, editable in any text editor)
http://www.indiansforguns.com/draft_objections.odt (Open Office document format, editable)

Vikram's article, continues to be freely downloadable at:
http://www.indiansforguns.com/right_to_protection.pdf

-- 31 Dec 2009 08:30 pm --

goodboy_mentor wrote:I am still getting old file while downloading form right_to_protection.pdf

I am attaching modified file here, please see if it is all-right, if yes you can replace it with this one.

Seems like a browser cache problem, try forcing a fresh reload by using ctrl+F5 OR clear your browser cache OR use an alternate browser to verify (e.g. Firefox in stead of Internet Explorer). Should do the trick.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Virendra S Rathore · Post by **Virendra S Rathore** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:17 pm

I agree, communist parties may not align with this.
Thought of just putting what I had and letting people decide what to take and what to leave.

Here's the list of media email Ids. Disappointing that I couldn't find for TOI and HT :-

Aaj Tak Editorial (TV/online):-
Q W Naqvi's Office - [email protected]

Dainik Bhaskar (paper/online) - [email protected]
Dainik Jagran (paper) - [email protected]
Deccan Chronicle (paper) - [email protected]
Deccan Herald (online) :-
Mr. D.B. Dutta, Vice President - [email protected], [email protected]

DNA (TV/online) - [email protected] - R Jagannathan
The Hindu (paper/online) - [email protected]
India daily (online) - [email protected]
Indian Express (paper/online) - [email protected]
India Today (magazine/online) - Editorial, Prabhu Chawla's office - [email protected]
Nai Duniya (paper/online) - Chief Editor : Alok Mehta ([email protected]), [email protected]

Rediff News (Pritish Nandy's commentary) - [email protected]
News today (paper/online) - [email protected]
NDTV (TV/online) :-
******"Email Id not found" *******
NDTV Ltd.
Archana Complex
Greater Kailash Part 1
New Delhi 110 048
INDIA.
Ph. : +91 11-26446666

Outlook India (Paper/Online) - [email protected] - word limit 4000.
Rajasthan Patrika (paper/online) - [email protected]
Sandesh (Gujrati paper) -
*** Email not found ***
The Sandesh Limited,
Sandesh Bhavan, Lad Society Road, Vastrapur, Bodakdev, Ahmedabad - 380 054
Tel : 079-4000 4000 Fax: 079- 4000 4242

The Shillong Times (paper/online) : [email protected]
Siasat Daily (Urdu daily) : [email protected]
The Telegraph India (paper/online) - [email protected]
Times Now (TV/online) - [email protected]
The Tribune (paper/online) - [email protected]
The Week (online) - [email protected]
India TV News (TV/online) - [email protected]

Thanks and regards,

Post by **Vikram** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:17 am

Abhijeet and penpusher,

That document you two fine gentlemen prepared is a work of art and I mean it.I take my hat off and await in the queue patiently to shake your hands.Thank you both.

I only wish the people in the policy making positions share your wisdom.Lets at least make them aware of our concerns.

Why not forward the documents to all the MPs,Party Heads,regional and national,including the Left? There is nothing to lose.Let us send emails and hard copies to all political parties and s many MPs as we can.And let us not waste time.

Thank you all.

Best-
Vikram

m24 · Post by **m24** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:41 am

Ladies and gents, my first act of new year, sent the document and the attachment Right to protection to all the email id's provided in the past 2-3 days including the MHA id.

Regards

Virendra S Rathore · Post by **Virendra S Rathore** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:42 pm

Bingooo ... thats sounds happening now.

Well, its too early to expect rifts in the governance by this; but yes this is what I'd say our first step.
THE ROCK SOLID 1st STEP !!!
Way to go friends !!
May this year be the defining one for IFG and its efforts .. Amen.

tingriman · Post by **tingriman** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:37 pm

Vikram wrote:Why not forward the documents to all the MPs,Party Heads,regional and national,including the Left? There is nothing to lose.Let us send emails and hard copies to all political parties and s many MPs as we can.

Virendra S Rathore wrote:THE ROCK SOLID 1st STEP !!!
Way to go friends !!
May this year be the defining one for IFG and its efforts .. Amen

Aameen

vkjalan · Post by **vkjalan** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:56 pm

to_saptarshi · Post by **to_saptarshi** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:49 pm

Kudos to everybody for the amount of effort they put in this to give it a final shape. I just received the mail from Webmaster with subject line "Draconian new laws proposed ". Before I go and email everyone I like to raise a small concern. If everyone of us going to email this same document , wont it be treated like a spam mail ? rather how about signing everybody at the end of the document with address and then ask Webmaster to send it to concerned group putting us in BCC ? If everybody started sending the same document it wont give a professional look and may leave a impression that we are not organized. I may be wrong ..but looking for what others are thinking on this before I go and press the send button from my email account.

Regards
Saptarshi

goodboy_mentor · Post by **goodboy_mentor** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:03 am

In India, we do not have any anti spam laws nor do we need one, we have free speech, freedom of expression. Therefore treating of any number of emails as spam does not arise, in India. Anti spam laws like in USA are bad for freedom of expression of opinion and ideas.

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:15 am

Request everyone who sends this out to to S.K. Malhotra at [email protected] to at the VERY LEAST send a copy to the following:

P. Chidamabaram: [email protected]
Sonia Gandhi: [email protected]
Arun Jaitley: [email protected]
Sushma Swaraj: [email protected]

You should also copy the prepared text to the Prime Minister at [email protected]

I would be additionally grateful if you print out the text below and post it via Registered Acknowledged Post orSpeed Post to :

Shri S.K. Malhotra,
Deputy Secretary,
Ministry of Home Affairs,
9th Floor, Lok Nayak Bhavan,
Khan Market, New Delhi - 110003.

Also, please post copies of the same to:

Shri P. Chidamabaram
Minister of Home Affairs.
Room No. 104,
North Block,
New Delhi - 110001
Ph:011-23092462, 23094686, 23093750 Fax-23094221

Dr. Manmohan Singh,
Prime Minister's Office,
Room No. 148 B,
South Block,
New Delhi - 110 001.
Office Tel : 23012312
23016857 (Fax)

Smt. Sonia Gandhi,
Chairperson,
National Advisory Council,
2 Motilal Nehru Place,
New Delhi -110011.

Smt. Sushma Swaraj
8, Safdarjung Lane,
New Delhi -110011.
Telephone 011- 23794344, 23794044 09868181930 (M)

Shri Arun Jaitley,
A-44, Kailash Colony,
New Delhi - 110048.
Telephone 011-26478212, 26487483, Fax : 26478358

Please note that all missives and e-mails need to reach Mr. S.K. Malhotra before 6th January, 2010.

Also, I would humbly request you to please request like minded members of your family and your friends to send the prepared text via e-mail and post to the above mentioned at the earliest - PLEASE CREATE A CHAIN - time is very short!

Post by **Vikram** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:28 am

Dear members,

I have just emailed my letter along with the two PDF files to all of the email addresses so kindly compiled by our members. This is what I wrote in the body.

Dear Sir,

I am a citizen of India. Kindly permit me to submit my
views and some of my objections to the Draft Arms & Ammunition Policy
(No.11026/16/2009-Arms).The said act,I believe,in its present form,
would cause greater harm than good to the law and order situation in
India in general and to all law abiding firearms license holders and
shooting sports persons in particular.

To put it simply, this document is seriously deficient in verifiable
and empirically demonstrable facts to support the assumptions that seem
to drive the direction of it.For example, we already have one of the
most stringent firearms regulation in the world and yet all the
statistical data compiled by the GOI itself suggests that violent crime
has been spiralling ever since Independence and legally held firearms
do not even have minuscule contribution to make to that end.Today,India
is the murder capital of the world. Law should punish criminals and
reward the law abiding.However, for the want of effective law
enforcement, we cannot penalise law abiding citizens by clubbing them
with criminal elements which is a violation of civil liberties and
individual freedoms.Justice is not a random dispensation where
depriving individual freedoms of right to defend one's life,family and
property compensates for the greater good.It is the other way round. If
we cannot allow our law abiding citizens to defend them selves or
compete in shooting sports without the fear of looking like criminals
and terrorists, is not a failure of us as a free society?

We have compiled extensive empirical evidence to all the objections we
have raised and great amount of time and effort have been spent to
produce an informed opinion of the issue at hand.This is not a
political or publicity exercise.This involves fundamental freedoms of
law abiding citizens.It is not just a law and order issue.It is
essentially a Civil Rights issue. I implore you,sir, to kindly go
through our views and objections to the aforementioned draft and take
them into consideration.Thanking you

Yours sincerely,
Vikram Kona

In case anyone is hesitant to let their felling known, please do not hesitate.There is nothing to lose or fear about.This is our democratic right and we are not doing anything unlawful.Please forward the message to as many people as possible and let our representatives and policy makers be aware of our concerns.

Thank you all.

Best-
Vikram

goodboy_mentor · Post by **goodboy_mentor** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:41 am

I have just sent the email to all of the above emails(just to inform all, yahoo did not allow such large number of emails to be sent, I had to send by gmail, so if you have gmail or some other email that allows you can use that). Yes I will send to all of my friends and relatives. 6 signed hard copies are ready, stuffed in envelopes to be posted tomorrow by speed post.

Post by **Sakobav** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:58 am

I will send mine in soon...Read an interesting opinion by an anti gun journo her premise supports precisely what this board has been trying to stress-- self help is best help.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... z0bIgWMuk0
"Since 2001, airline passengers — regular people without weapons or training — have helped thwart terrorist attacks aboard at least five different commercial airplanes. It happened again on Christmas Day. And as we do each and every time, we miss the point.....
Each time, we blame the government for failing to keep us safe, and the government goes back to treating us like Children"

Examples she gives is passengers who prevented of United Flight 93 from further attack on DC on 9/11, shoe bomber Reid and then this one above Detroit where a passenger(s) and crew restrained the terrorist. This is the crux of our argument armed citizens could and will fight the terrorists rather than being slaughtered ( atleast few of them will confront
) provided the government treat its Citizens as responsible mature rational beings and also be cognizant that Govt cant be every where all the time.

Cheers

goodboy_mentor · Post by **goodboy_mentor** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:37 am

Requesting Vikram or Admin to update the white paper at http://www.indiansforguns.com/right_to_protection.pdf with above logic mentioned at http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... z0bIgWMuk0

Prabhath · Post by **Prabhath** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:23 pm

Kudos to the members who came up with the draft. I did my part in sending it across to the email ids mentioned. We now can only wait and see if some kind of good sense prevails among the decision makers. It just is so sad that a few have the power to take decisions which would ultimately affect society. At times I cannot help but ponder if I am really a citizen of a democratic country or not.........

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