Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

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Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by mundaire » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:40 pm

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... WRlnM.html
Centre seeks states’ advice onc riminal justice system revamp
In a letter written to Rajasthan and other state governments, a copy of which was seen by HT, Shah mentioned no particular changes while emphasising the need for change in the laws that have been in force many years and been amended several times.
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Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative (CHRI), police reforms and other criminal justice laws have been pending since 1996, when a model police law was suggested by a Padmanabhaiah Committee. In 2016, the Supreme Court also urged the Centre and states to reform police laws while disposing of a plea by former Uttar Pradesh director general of police Prakash Singh. (HT FILE)

To ensure speedy justice and simplify legal processes, Union home minister Amit Shah has sought suggestions from state governments on changes that may be required in four key criminal justice laws – the Indian Penal Code (IPC), Code of Criminal Procedure (CrPC), Arms Act and the Narcotics Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Act (NDPS).

In a letter written to Rajasthan and other state governments, a copy of which was seen by HT, Shah mentioned no particular changes while emphasising the need for change in the laws that have been in force many years and been amended several times.

The Indian Penal Code was enacted in 1860, CrPC in 1973, Arms Act in 1959 and NDPS in 1985. In the letter to Rajasthan chief minister Ashok Gehlot, Shah wrote that the Centre makes amendments to such laws from time to time after a review.

In 2018, through the Criminal Law (Amendment) Act, the laws for crime against women were made stricter. In 2019, amendments were made in the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act 1967; and the National Investigation Agency Act, 2008, the letter said.

He said after 70 years of Independence and keeping in mind the vision of a New India; and with an objective of strengthening law and order, it seems necessary to bring the changes. “While giving suggestions, it needs to be ensured that the revised law is as per the democratic expectations and capable of providing speedy justice to women, children, weaker section of the society...”

According to Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative (CHRI), police reforms and other criminal justice laws have been pending since 1996, when a model police law was suggested by a Padmanabhaiah Committee. In 2016, the Supreme Court also urged the Centre and states to reform police laws while disposing of a plea by former Uttar Pradesh director general of police Prakash Singh.

Singh welcomed the initiative and said the governments needed to modernise these laws for speedy justice and to take into account the use of technology
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Re: Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by ASIF007 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:41 pm

Will it be in our favour or more stringent?

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Post by Virendra S Rathore » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:46 pm

Time will tell. Too early to know. But good time to begin lobbying though. Hope NAGRI is up for it
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Will it be in our favour or more stringent?
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Post by sumbriavikramaditya » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:43 pm

Virendra S Rathore wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:46 pm
Time will tell. Too early to know. But good time to begin lobbying though. Hope NAGRI is up for it
National Association for Gun Rights India (NAGRI) should start lobbying for its goals. The member base of IFG should be mobilised. High ranking members should guide and lead.

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Re: Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by Biren » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:36 am

Not a good sign knowing this Gov fetish to control ppl.

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Re: Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by dsingh » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:29 pm

we must get a petition signed by 2 crore people atleast to be submited to home department by making certain changes in arma act .Today in border states no arm licences r given to common people.Those who have arm lecence r prone to restrictions limitaion on amno still we r not alllowed more than 25 rounds .Most common hanguns r .32 bore revolvers/Pistols but amno r not easily available one is limitations secondly due to unknown reasons common llicence holder gets difficulty in getting amno .All licence holders must be allowed 200 rounds by notifications.Other weapons like 38 9MM may be included in N.P bore .Buckshots must be allowed .In India prone to violence common citizen lives r at stake it is common people who suffers not the VIPS. Still despite allowing private manufacturing IOF weapons r better and compact.IOF must open amno stores for common licence holders.Also critera of 3 arms must be scrapped and no of weapons a licence holder must own must be increased to 5 to 7.During communal riots prior to 1980s there were less casaulties less death rate except for Jamshedpur riots .Where people were able to defend themselves better way .If one goes through mass killings reports of commissions there r shocking facts less causalties where arms used in self defence.
Most important factor is national defence In our adversary nation Pakistan liberalgun laws IN USA world most powerful nations liberal and free guns possession .Once a soviet generel remarked we have capacity to defeat US forces in 2 months and destroy their nuclear arseana in 30 mintues but we cannot occupy their land as their citizens r armed to teeth and soviet forces will lose in street gun battles .
Same priciple is adopted in 1980s by Pakistan as there was danger of soviet invasion then Pak presidentgEN zIA ENSURED that pak citizens r able to fight long war after its army is defeated.

Particular people of border states r in risk

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Re: Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by Biren » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:09 am

Gov will have its way... Just look at how it handled Air rifles .22 calibers and above... No policy for those holding these air rifles..these air rifle have no number, where to deposit till one get licence (cops have no idea)... Many lakhs turned criminals overnight and liable under arms act for possessing illegal arms not mention illegal cartridges read pellets.

This amendment will also pass with no objections and just wait till Gov starts confiscating arms of all those who cross certain age limits.

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Re: Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by sumbriavikramaditya » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:28 pm

This news article only talks about illegal arms trade which is supporting terrorism in our country. It only mentions Gunshops. Nothing is said about License Holders.

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Re: Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by sfcabhishek » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:38 pm

It's just what we have right now. Maybe further updates would bring something new.
It was just shared as a general topic of discussion.
Apologies for posting out of context.

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Re: Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by ASIF007 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:21 pm

Just read this article from our very own TC Sir.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... NetCN.html

A common citizen can now have only 2 weapons as against 3. Really sad.

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Re: Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by Mr.Shome » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:28 pm

Yes, really sad indeed. If this clause becomes a law, it will set a precedent in the years to come, let alone the harassment, which legal licensees will face immediately.

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Re: Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by AtanuB » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:12 am

Proposed Arms ( Amendment ) Bill 2019.

Firearm laws may get more stringent - https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news ... NetCN.html
Firearm laws may get more stringent
The ministry has also proposed a new section, 25 (6), with a minimum punishment of 10 years in prison and maximum punishment of life imprisonment till death for using prohibited fire arms or ammunition by members of organised crime syndicate.
Updated: Oct 10, 2019 01:52 IST
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One of the officials cited above, privy to discussions on the proposed changes, said on condition of anonymity that the quantum of punishment for most offences has been doubled in the proposed Arms (Amendment) Bill, 2019.(HT image)

The Union home ministry has proposed stringent punishment, including jail till death, for those illegally manufacturing “prohibited” arms, and for members of crime syndicates carrying such arms, in the proposed changes in the Indian Arms Act, 1959, according to senior officials familiar with the matter.

One of the officials cited above, privy to discussions on the proposed changes, said on condition of anonymity that the quantum of punishment for most offences has been doubled in the proposed Arms (Amendment) Bill, 2019.

The draft of the proposed law, reviewed by HT, covers five new areas -- illegal trafficking of arms, tracking arms and their components from manufacturers to end users, organised crime, organised crime syndicates, and celebratory firing --- with varying punishment for these offences.

Under penal provisions, the ministry has sought to amend Section 25 (1AA) of the Act, to give a punishment from the usual life term of 14 years to “imprisonment for the remainder of that person’s natural life” for manufacturing facturing, selling, repairing and possessing prohibited arms. The draft says that minimum punishment under this section will be 14 years; under the current law, the minimum punishment is seven years and the maximum is 10.

The ministry has also proposed a new section, 25 (6), with a minimum punishment of 10 years in prison and maximum punishment of life imprisonment till death for using prohibited fire arms or ammunition by members of organised crime syndicate. This section also gives seven years in prison to a life term for manufacturing these firearms or selling them to these syndicates.

The draft amendments categorise the illegal import of guns and components and their sale and purchase as “illicit trade” and has provisions to send an authorised gun dealer to jail for up to seven years for tampering with the markings on the weapons.

In addition, the draft also allows a person to have a maximum of two firearms, as against the present norm of three. The proposed amendment says only “club members” can possess a third weapon -- a .22 calibre rifle only -- if they are “a dedicated sportsperson whose participation in shooting sports has been recognised in national or international events in the last two years by the Central government”.

There are around four million licensed firearms in the country, according to home ministry data.

The draft says that once the amendment comes into force, those who own more than two firearms will have to deposit the rest with the local administration or authorised gun dealers within 90 days for de-licensing.

According to the government officials cited above, the ministry discussed the proposed changes with the home secretaries and police chiefs of Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar, Punjab, Maharashtra, Kerala, Andhra Pradesh and Manipur. The meetings were also attended by senior officials of the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) and the National Investigation Agency (NIA), they added.

A second government official familiar with the developments said the draft Arms (Amendment) Act 2019 was aimed at curtailing the proliferation of arms and ammunition.

“While the quantum of sentence has been doubled, and even extended to a life term for people involved in manufacturing and trading in illegal firearms, the government proposes stronger action against authorised dealers resorting to unscrupulous methods and a section of shooters who have misused import rights to run a parallel trade,” the official said, asking not to be named.

When asked about the proposed chances, Ravi Ahuja, general secretary of the All India Arms Dealers’ Welfare Council, said the government should ease procedures to issue licences “so that people face no difficulty in keeping two guns.”

Abhijeet Singh, a spokesperson for National Association for Gun Rights India (NAGRI), the only pan-Indian organisation fighting for liberal gun laws, said: “More restrictions will encourage illegal trade. As arms licensing norms were tightened from the mid-1980s, more and more illegal arms surfaced.”

Former Olympian and coach Joydeep Karmarkar said the amendments will not affect sportspeople. “For competitive shooters, two or even three firearms are adequate because nobody takes part in several disciplines simultaneously. To stop misuse of shooters’ privileges, the government should set up a panel of experts to examine the weapons being imported,” Karmakar said.

In July 2016, the Centre brought into force Arms Rules 2016 through a gazette notification that not only made getting a firearm licence under the 1959 Arms Act difficult for non-sportspersons, but also brought air rifles above .177 calibre or those generating more than 20 joules of energy under the ambit of licences. The 2016 rules, however, relaxed some restrictions for civilians and sportspersons -- such as increasing the quota for ammunition. For civilians, it was increased by four times and for sportspersons, depending on their achievement in national and international competitions.

First Published: Oct 10, 2019 01:52 IST

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Re: Home Ministry Seeking to Amend Arms Act

Post by Anand » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:54 am

There is a need again to lobby for the cause of licensees. Like the Proposed Arms Rules, 2016 were put up for comments from the public on the Home Ministry's website, will they put up these proposed changes for public comments as well?
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