A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by Sbhritwal » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:49 pm

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@Vineet, please help all the gun lovers by starting a movement of importing ammunition of calibers 357 sig, 40 SW, 380 acp, 45 acp and providing at sub 100/- price. This help will be appreciated forever by gun lovers across India.
Well said. This is really the need of the hour. I support this movement.

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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by Drameenkitekar » Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:57 pm

Probably 45 acp in G36 may be little heavy to control for coming on target again for 2nd shot, specially in Indian scenario where the cost of ammunition and quota on license prevents majority from practicing more to get the good control.
Glock in compact size like G23, G25, G44, G32 are a good balance between conceal carry and good weapon control during shooting for majority of average size Indians.

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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by kanwar76 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:56 pm

How much a .45 round cost in India nowdays?
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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by Vineet » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:12 pm

The price was around Rs. 150 each when import of cartridges came in India. Now the price is slowly going up as the stock is drying up. Nowadays price is around Rs. 250 each.

Nowadays dealers are facing problems in getting import permit. Price will come down again once new import comes. Also prices in India vary from place to place.
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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by Drameenkitekar » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:22 pm

@Vineet take some initiative for importing 380, 45, 40, 357 sigs. Help will be highly appreciated.

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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by kanwar76 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:24 pm

Vineet wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:12 pm
The price was around Rs. 150 each when import of cartridges came in India. Now the price is slowly going up as the stock is drying up. Nowadays price is around Rs. 250 each.

Nowadays dealers are facing problems in getting import permit. Price will come down again once new import comes. Also prices in India vary from place to place.

Thanks Vineet,

In Indian scene .22 seems to be a better choice. At 250 a pop how one can practice and carry? Perhaps all these companies need to start ammunition manufacturing before they start making guns.

Anyone knows what is the legality around conversion kits?
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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by Vineet » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:46 pm

Drameenkitekar wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:22 pm
@Vineet take some initiative for importing 380, 45, 40, 357 sigs. Help will be highly appreciated.
There is a cartridge list issued by government. Only cartridge listed in that list can be imported. .45 is there in the list.

.380 acp is not there in the list. This is the reason. 380 is priced around Rs. 700 a pop.

.40 and 357 sig are also not in the list. There was almost no demand for these two calibers in India till now. Hope now when new companies make firearms for these calibers, they will manufacture ammo also.
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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by sourabhsangale » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:50 pm

Vineet wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:46 pm
Drameenkitekar wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:22 pm
@Vineet take some initiative for importing 380, 45, 40, 357 sigs. Help will be highly appreciated.
There is a cartridge list issued by government. Only cartridge listed in that list can be imported. .45 is there in the list.

.380 acp is not there in the list. This is the reason. 380 is priced around Rs. 700 a pop.

.40 and 357 sig are also not in the list. There was almost no demand for these two calibers in India till now. Hope now when new companies make firearms for these calibers, they will manufacture ammo also.
Where is this list sir on which site or where to find one ?

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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by drag73 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:50 pm

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news ... 4fIPI.html

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Currently serving with the military, police and special forces in more than 70 nations, including India, America, England and France, the famous polymer-frame Glock pistols from Austria may soon be available to Indian citizens in non-service calibres.

In 2019, the Tamil Nadu-based Counter measures technologies pvt. ltd. (CMT) and Glock Ges.m.b.H, Austria, entered into a partnership to produce the pistols at the CMT plant in Tiruvallur district, which is part of the state’s defence industrial corridor planned by the Centre.

The joint venture was initially signed for supplying Glocks only to the government. With permission from the Centre, CMT has now set a target to sell the pistols to civilians by the end of March 2021, one of the Indian company’s directors and major shareholder, Jayakumar Jayarajan, told HT.

For India’s civilian arms market, the arrival of the Glock will be a game changer, stakeholders feel. The pistol is sold to citizens in many countries, including the USA.

“The Covid-19 lockdown delayed our project by more than six months. We are trying to pick up speed. Our first priority is to supply the 9 mm pistols to the armed forces. Civilians will get the .22 LR, .380, .357 Sig, .40 and .45 calibre pistols. We have permission to set up our own proof testing facility,” said Jayarajan.

“A team from Glock landed in Chennai in January 2019 and flew to Delhi to meet Union defence ministry officials after visiting our site. In the delegation was a man who was part of the team that helped the designer, Gaston Glock, make the first pistol in 1981,” said Jayarajan.

Today, Glock produces fifth generation pistols with competitors following its polymer technology.

In India, the majority of licensed firearms owners are saddled with old or antiquated foreign handguns imported before 1984 or the ones being made by government ordnance factories. The erstwhile Congress government at the Centre banned import of all types of firearms in 1984, giving exemptions only to national and international shooters and state agencies.

Though out of reach of India’s gun owners till now, the world’s first military service pistol to sport a light polymer frame and trigger safety feature, is a familiar name to the nation.

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A 9 mm Glock 26 compact pistol was the only weapon wing commander Abhinandan Varthaman was armed with when he was captured in Pakistan in February 2019 after the Balakot air strikes.

Glocks also went into action with National Security Guard (NSG) commandos during the terror attack on Pathankot air force base in 2016 and in other operations.

“We support any initiative that promotes the ‘Make in India’ programme and moves us closer to an ‘Atmanirbhar Bharat’ (self-sufficient India),” said Delhi-based Abhijeet Singh, spokesperson for National association for gun rights India (NAGRI), the only pan-nation organisation fighting for liberal gun laws for citizens.

Prakash Simson, owner of Simson gun house in Mangalore, Karnataka, said, “Indians still pay a premium price for 50 or 70-year-old handguns because of their reliability. The India-made Glocks have to meet people’s expectations. But before that, the government must ensure that law-abiding citizens get gun licence without being caught in red tape for years. If licences are not issued there will no market. The companies will wind up their business.”

Also Read: Defence ministry clears military purchases worth Rs 2,920 crore, rifles from US among them

A gun owner and sports enthusiast, Yuvraj Yograjsinh of Mansa, Gujarat, said, “Glocks are not made in .32 ACP which is the most popular pistol calibre in India because the ammunition is made by our ordnance factory, the other one being .22 LR. Ammunition for the rest of the calibres being offered to civilians by CMT is not made here. Imported ammunitions are frightfully expensive. This needs to be addressed first.”

Jayarajan said CMT has been given permission to manufacture ammunition of all calibres, ranging from the small .22 LR to the 12.7 x 108 mm heavy machine-gun cartridge used by the army. “We plan to make the ammunition factory operational by the end of 2021,” he said.


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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by sourabhsangale » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:39 pm

Any idea when booking are going to open ?

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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by Drameenkitekar » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:51 pm

Expression of interest form is open on the Glock website. Delivery will be through dealers.

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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by sourabhsangale » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:42 am

Drameenkitekar wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:51 pm
Expression of interest form is open on the Glock website. Delivery will be through dealers.
Have filled that .

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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by miroflex » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:30 am

Good news!

An article in The Hindustan Times of yesterday by an IFG member, Mr Tanmay Chatterjee (TC), saying that Glock pistols will be available to Indian civilian buyers by March 2021.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... ers%20feel.

Perhaps Mundaire will add something to this and start a move for cheaper ammunition. He has successfully spearheaded the movement for gun rights for Indians and along with TC and other members has been indefatigable in his efforts to spread awareness of the citizens' right to keep and bear arms.

Let us keep our fingers crossed and hope that Glock, Taurus and other makes reach the dealers soon.
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Post by Drameenkitekar » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:44 am

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Re: A new baby born... Made in India Glock?

Post by asifalikhanasif » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:12 pm

miroflex wrote:
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Let us keep our fingers crossed and hope that Glock, Taurus and other makes reach the dealers soon.
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